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小悦大家好!欢迎收听新一期的《大白话中文》。我是小悦。

Hello everyone! Welcome to a new episode of Simply Natural Chinese. I'm Xiaoyue.

Leo大家好,我是 Leo。

Hello everyone, I'm Leo.

小悦Leo,你终于出现了!我正要找你算账呢。

Leo, you're finally here! I've been wanting to give you a piece of my mind.

Leo哈哈,怎么了?听起来你很生气啊。

Haha, what's wrong? You sound really angry.

小悦当然生气了!我上周六做了一种新的抹茶蛋糕,特别成功。

Of course I'm angry! I made a new matcha cake last Saturday, and it was a huge success.

Leo哇,抹茶蛋糕是我的最爱!

Wow, matcha cake is my favorite!

小悦所以我给你发微信,想叫你过来试吃。结果呢?

So I sent you a WeChat message, wanting you to come try it. And then?

Leo结果你没收到回复,对吧?

And then you didn't reply, right?

小悦何止没回复,我下午给你打电话,你居然关机了!

Not only no reply, I even called you in the afternoon, but you had your phone turned off!

Leo不好意思,不好意思。我猜你当时一定觉得我失踪了。

Sorry, sorry. I bet you thought I had disappeared.

小悦我确实担心了一下。我还以为你回英国了,或者手机掉进西湖里了。

I really was worried. I thought you might have gone back to the UK, or your phone fell into West Lake.

Leo哈哈,手机没掉进西湖,但是我确实把它“扔”掉了。

Haha, the phone didn't fall into West Lake, but I did "throw" it away.

小悦什么意思?你换新手机了?

What do you mean? Did you get a new phone?

Leo不是。我上周末去安吉露营了,我决定在那两天做一个实验。

No. I went camping in Anji last weekend, and I decided to do an experiment for those two days.

小悦露营?那是个好地方。但什么实验需要关机呢?

Camping? That's a great place. But what experiment requires turning off your phone?

Leo这个实验叫“数字排毒”,英文叫 Digital Detox。

It's called "Digital Detox" in English.

小悦哦!我听说过这个词。简单来说就是不看手机,对吗?

Oh! I've heard of that term. Simply put, it's about not looking at your phone, right?

Leo对。不看手机,不看电脑,不看任何电子屏幕。

Right. No phone, no computer, no electronic screens at all.

小悦天呐,作为一个英语老师,你居然能离开手机两天?

Oh my gosh, as an English teacher, you can actually stay away from your phone for two days?

Leo是啊。作为老师,我平时手机里全是学生的消息。

Yeah. As a teacher, my phone is full of messages from students all day.

小悦我能想象。会有家长和学生经常联系你。

I can imagine. Parents and students must contact you frequently.

Leo没错。我觉得我每天 24 小时都在工作。

Exactly. I feel like I'm working 24 hours a day.

小悦所以你觉得累了?

So you think you're tired?

Leo不仅是累,我觉得我的注意力越来越差了。

Not just tired, I feel like my attention span has been getting worse and worse.

小悦注意力?这跟手机有关系吗?

Attention span? Does that have something to do with phones?

Leo关系太大了。我发现我甚至没法安静地读完一本书。

Huge connection. I found that I can't even quietly finish reading a book.

小悦我也发现了。有时候我想看书,但看五分钟就想拿手机。

I noticed that too. Sometimes I want to read, but after five minutes I want to grab my phone.

Leo对!就是这种感觉。总觉得手机里有什么重要的消息在等我。

Right! That's exactly how it feels. Always feeling like there are important messages waiting for me on my phone.

小悦其实打开一看,大部分都是没用的群消息。

But when you actually check, most of them are useless group messages.

Leo所以,我决定去山里,把手机锁在车的后备箱里。

So I decided to go to the mountains and lock my phone in the car trunk.

小悦锁在后备箱?你认真的吗?万一迷路了怎么办?

Lock it in the trunk? Are you serious? What if you get lost?

Leo我带了纸质的地图,虽然看地图真的很费劲。

I brought a paper map, even though reading maps is really difficult.

小悦哈哈,现在还有人用纸质地图?太复古了。

Haha, who still uses paper maps these days? So old-school.

Leo虽然慢,但是那种感觉很特别。

It was slow, but that feeling was really special.

小悦那第一天不看手机,你是什么感觉?

So how did you feel on the first day without your phone?

Leo难受。非常难受。

Terrible. Really terrible.

小悦是那种无聊的感觉吗?

Is it that you're bored?

Leo不仅是无聊。我甚至觉得口袋里一直在震动。

Not just bored. I even felt like my pocket was vibrating constantly.

小悦哈哈,那是错觉吧?

Haha, that must be your imagination, right?

Leo是的,因为我的口袋里根本没有手机。

Yes, because there was definitely no phone in my pocket.

小悦那你是怎么克服这种焦虑的?

So how did you deal with that anxiety?

Leo我开始搭帐篷,生火,准备晚饭。

I started setting up the tent, making a fire, preparing dinner.

小悦没有手机,这些事做起来是不是更慢?

Without your phone, did these things take longer?

Leo是慢了很多。比如我没法查“怎么生火”的视频。

Much longer. For example, I couldn't look up videos on "how to make a fire."

小悦只能靠自己的经验。

Had to rely on my own experience.

Leo对,还有朋友的帮助。我们坐在一起聊天,没有一个人看手机。

Right, and also help from friends. We sat together chatting, and not a single person was looking at their phone.

小悦那种感觉一定很奇怪,但也很好。

That must have felt really strange, but also good.

Leo是非常好。我发现我不看手机的时候,天空的颜色都更亮了。

It was really good. I found that when I wasn't looking at my phone, the colors of the sky seemed brighter.

小悦你这也太夸张了吧?

That's a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think?

Leo真的!因为你观察得更仔细了。

It's true! Because you notice things more carefully.

小悦那你没遇到什么麻烦吗?比如付钱?

But did you run into any trouble? Like paying for things?

Leo这就是我想说的。在中国做数字排毒,真的是太难了。

That's exactly what I wanted to say. Doing a digital detox in China is really hard.

小悦哈哈,我猜到了。

Haha, I guessed that.

Leo我在路边想买一瓶水,可是老板说没有现金找零。

I wanted to buy a bottle of water on the roadside, but the shopkeeper said they didn't have change for cash.

小悦他让你扫码?

They asked you to scan QR code?

Leo对。我说我没带手机。老板看我的眼神就像在看一个外星人。

Right. I said I didn't have my phone with me. The shopkeeper looked at me like I was an alien.

小悦老板肯定在想:现在竟然有人出门不带手机?

The shopkeeper must have been thinking: how can anyone go out without their phone these days?

Leo最后还是我朋友帮我付的钱。

In the end, my friend helped me pay.

小悦所以,如果没有朋友,你可能在山里渴死了。

So without your friend, you might have died of thirst in the mountains.

Leo差不多吧。不仅是付钱,我想买门票也得扫码。

Pretty much. Not just paying, I even had to scan QR codes to buy admission tickets.

小悦这就是数字生活的代价——我们太依赖它了。

That's the price of our digital life — we rely on it way too much.

Leo小悦,你觉得如果让你一天不用手机,你能行吗?

Xiaoyue, do you think you could go a whole day without your phone?

小悦说实话,如果是在杭州,我觉得我不行。

Honestly, if I'm in Hangzhou, I don't think I could do it.

Leo为什么呢?

Why not?

小悦首先,我出门要打车或者扫单车,这需要手机。

First of all, I need my phone to call a taxi or scan a bike to get around.

Leo确实,没有手机你走不出两公里。

True, without your phone you can't walk even two kilometers.

小悦其次,我点外卖、买东西,甚至进图书馆都要手机。

Secondly, I order food delivery, buy things, even going to the library requires my phone.

Leo所以在中国,手机不仅仅是一个工具,更像是你身体的一部分。

So in China, a phone is not just a tool — it's more like part of your body.

小悦这个比喻好深刻。但你作为一个英语老师,学生没找到你会生气吗?

What a profound metaphor. But as an English teacher, weren't the students' parents upset when they couldn't reach you?

Leo我周一回去之后,发现微信里有 200 多条未读消息。

When I went back on Monday, I had over 200 unread WeChat messages.

小悦我的天!你花了多久才回复完?

Oh my god! How long did it take you to reply to all of them?

Leo我没有马上回。我先去喝了杯咖啡。

I didn't reply right away. I went to have a coffee first.

小悦你不担心家长投诉你吗?

Weren't you worried about parents complaining?

Leo我告诉他们,我周末去“数字排毒”了。结果你猜怎么着?

I told them I went "digital detox" for the weekend. And then guess what?

小悦家长们很生气?

Were the parents angry?

Leo不,很多家长说他们也很羡慕我。

No, many parents said they were really envious of me.

小悦看来大家都觉得压力很大。

It seems everyone's feeling the pressure.

Leo是的。有个家长说,他每天工作要看 10 个小时屏幕。

Yes. One parent told me he stares at screens for 10 hours a day at work.

小悦回家还要刷短视频。

And then watches short videos when he gets home.

Leo没错。他说他现在眼睛看东西都是模糊的。

Exactly. He said his eyes are now blurry when he looks at things.

小悦其实这不仅对身体不好,对学习也不好。

That's actually bad for your health and for learning too.

Leo作为一个老师,我非常同意这一点。

As a teacher, I completely agree.

小悦怎么说?

How so?

Leo很多学生跟我抱怨,他们背单词记不住。

Many students complain to me that they can't memorize vocabulary.

小悦是因为年纪大了吗?

Is it because they're getting older?

Leo不是。是因为他们的时间被碎片化了。

No. It's because their time is fragmented.

小悦碎片化?

Fragmented?

Leo对。他们刚看五个单词,手机响了,就去回个消息。

Right. They just look at five vocabulary words, then their phone buzzes and they go reply to a message.

小悦回来之后,前面的单词全忘了。

When they come back, they've forgotten all the words from before.

Leo大脑需要时间进入深度思考的状态。

The brain needs time to enter a state of deep thinking.

小悦但是手机不给我们这个时间。

But phones don't give us that time.

Leo没错。每条推送通知都在偷走我们的注意力。

Exactly. Every push notification is stealing our attention.

小悦那这次的“排毒露营”,你觉得最大的收获是什么呢?

So for this "detox camping," what do you think was the biggest takeaway?

Leo是“安静”。那种真正的安静。

It's "quietness." That real quietness.

小悦山里的安静吗?

The quietness of the mountains?

Leo是大脑里的安静。我不用想:谁给我发消息了?我有多少个赞了?

No, the quietness in my head. I don't have to think: who messaged me? How many likes did I get?

小悦说到“赞”,我觉得社交媒体的压力也是排毒的一个原因。

Speaking of "likes," I think the pressure from social media is also a reason for detox.

Leo非常正确。我们要花很多时间去修图、发照片、回复评论。

Very true. We spend so much time editing photos, posting, replying to comments.

小悦而且还会拿自己的生活去跟别人比较。

And we compare our lives to others.

Leo对。你看,小明又去欧洲旅游了。你看,小红又买新包了。

Right. You see, Xiaoming went to Europe for vacation. You see, Xiaohong bought a new bag.

小悦然后自己就觉得不开心。

And then we feel unhappy.

Leo其实,小明去旅游的时候可能一直在手机上处理工作,一点也不开心。

Actually, when Xiaoming was traveling, he was probably dealing with work on his phone the whole time and wasn't happy at all.

小悦但是我们只看到了照片。

But we only see the photos.

Leo所以,放下手机,你才会发现自己的生活也很美。

So, putting down your phone is when you realize your own life is beautiful too.

小悦那 Leo,你打算把这个“数字排毒”变成一个长期的计划吗?

So Leo, are you planning to make "digital detox" a long-term thing?

Leo我打算每周都选一天,完全不用社交媒体。

I'm planning to pick one day every week to completely stay off social media.

小悦选哪一天?周日吗?

Which day? Sunday?

Leo对。我想把周日留给家人、朋友和书本。

Right. I want to save Sundays for family, friends, and books.

小悦那如果有紧急的工作怎么办?

But what if there's urgent work?

Leo我告诉大家,如果有急事,请直接给我打电话。

I'll tell everyone, if it's urgent, please just call me directly.

小悦现在的人好像都不喜欢打电话了。

People nowadays seem to not like making phone calls anymore.

Leo是的。但是真正急的事,打电话才是最有效的。

That's true. But for really urgent things, a phone call is the most effective.

小悦这确实是一个办法。

That's definitely a solution.

Leo而且我发现,其实根本没有那么多“急事”。

And I realized, there actually aren't that many "urgent" things.

小悦哈哈,你说的对。很多事情并没有那么紧急。

Haha, you're right. Many things aren't as urgent as we think.

Leo世界离开我们,照样转得很好。

The world keeps spinning perfectly fine without us.

小悦那除了手机关机,你还有什么其他的排毒建议吗?

So besides turning off your phone, do you have any other detox suggestions?

Leo有一个很简单的方法。

There's a really simple method.

小悦快分享一下!

Come on, share it!

Leo把你的手机屏幕调成灰色。

Change your phone screen to grayscale.

小悦灰色?那看起来多丑啊。

Grayscale? That looks so ugly.

Leo这就是目的!因为没有了鲜艳的颜色,App 就没那么吸引人了。

That's the point! Because without those bright colors, apps aren't as attractive anymore.

小悦哇,这个方法太聪明了。我回去就试试。

Wow, that's so clever. I'm going to try it when I get home.

Leo还有,睡觉的时候手机不要放在枕头旁边。

Also, don't put your phone next to your pillow when you sleep.

小悦可是我要用手机当闹钟呀。

But I use my phone as an alarm clock!

Leo去买一个真正的闹钟。只要 20 块钱。

Go buy a real alarm clock. They're only 20 yuan.

小悦你说得对。这样我就不会在睡觉前刷一小时抖音了。

You're right. That way I won't scroll through Douyin for an hour before bed.

Leo也不会在醒来后的第一秒钟就开始看工作邮件。

And I won't check work emails the first second after waking up.

小悦那种感觉确实很压抑。

That feeling is really depressing.

Leo所以,数字排毒不仅是关机,更是一种生活习惯。

So digital detox isn't just about turning off your phone — it's a lifestyle.

小悦我觉得我也可以试试。就从今天下午开始?

I think I can try that too. Starting this afternoon?

Leo好啊。那我们要不要约一个没有手机的下午茶?

Sure. So do you want to have a phone-free afternoon tea together?

小悦没问题。你可以补上我那个抹茶蛋糕。

Sounds good. You can make up for that matcha cake I missed.

Leo没问题。但我们怎么见面呢?不用微信。

Sure. But how do we meet up? Without WeChat.

小悦我们可以约定一个老地方,老时间。

We can agree on an old meeting spot, at an old time.

Leo就像生活在20年前。

Like living in the 1990s.

小悦对!不见不散。

Right! I'll be there, and I'll wait for you.

Leo感觉很浪漫。

That feels so romantic.

小悦对了,Leo。你觉得现在的年轻人,是不是更难排毒?

By the way Leo, do you think young people today have a harder time detoxing?

Leo是的。因为他们是“数字原住民”。

Yes. Because they're "digital natives."

小悦他们出生就有网络。

They were born with the internet.

Leo对。他们甚至觉得不用手机的生活是不真实的。

Right. They even feel like life without phones is unreal.

小悦可是手机上的游戏和短视频太容易让人上瘾了。

But the games and short videos on phones are so addictive.

Leo没错。那些 App 的设计者,目的就是让你离不开它。

Exactly. The people who designed those apps, their goal is to make you unable to leave them.

小悦所以我们要和那些聪明的程序员作斗争。

So we have to fight against those smart programmers.

Leo哈哈,没错。这是一场关于注意力的战争。

Haha, exactly. This is a war over attention.

小悦那你觉得排毒之后,你的英语课教得更好了吗?

So after detoxing, do you think your English teaching has gotten better?

Leo我觉得我的耐心变好了。

I think I've become more patient.

小悦耐心?

Patient?

Leo以前我总是想快点上完课去看手机。

Before, I was always thinking about finishing class quickly so I could check my phone.

小悦现在呢?

And now?

Leo现在我能更专注地听学生的每一个发音。

Now I can focus more carefully on every student's pronunciation.

小悦学生一定能感觉到这种变化。

Your students must be able to feel that change.

Leo是的。有个学生说,觉得我最近变得“温柔”了。

Yes. One student told me they think I've become more "gentle" lately.

小悦哈哈,这绝对是热水和数字排毒的双重作用。

Haha, that must be the combined effect of hot springs and digital detox.

Leo热水暖身体,排毒暖心灵。

Hot water warms the body, detox warms the soul.

小悦说得太棒了!

That's so well said!

Leo不过,我也得承认,手机也有很多好处。

Though I have to admit, phones have a lot of benefits too.

小悦那是当然。比如现在,一定有很多朋友在手机上收听我们的节目。

Of course. Like right now, there must be many friends listening to our show on their phones.

Leo所以重点不是“不用”,而是“控制”。

So the key isn't "don't use," it's "control."

小悦掌握平衡最重要。

Finding balance is most important.

Leo就像吃甜品一样。

Like eating dessert.

小悦对!抹茶蛋糕再好吃,也不能天天吃。

Right! Matcha cake is delicious, but you can't eat it every day.

Leo偶尔吃一次,才是真正的享受。

Once in a while is the real enjoyment.

小悦没错。好了,听完这一期节目的朋友们……

Exactly. So friends, after listening to this episode...

Leo请你们立刻放下手机。

Please put down your phones right now.

小悦去喝杯水,看看窗外。或者去找朋友聊聊天。

Go drink a glass of water, look out the window. Or go chat with a friend.

Leo但是别忘了来看我们的下期节目!

But don't forget to come back for our next episode!

小悦好的。感谢大家的收听。

Okay. Thanks for listening, everyone.

Leo我是 Leo,我们要去过一个没有手机的下午了。

I'm Leo, and we're going to spend an afternoon without phones.

小悦我是小悦,下期再见!

I'm Xiaoyue, see you next time!

Leo再见!

Bye!

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