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软拒绝四大类。时间型:再说吧、到时候再说、改天吧、有空一起——全都没有日期,而没有日期的约定就不是约定。考虑型:我考虑一下、我看看——要看的不是这句话,是后面三天。第三方型:我得问问我爱人、我问一下我们领导——决定权跑到不在场的人身上,事情就结束了。困难型:有点困难、不太方便——「不太方便」还多一层:别问原因。;三个比背句子好用的判据。一,后面有没有「下一步」——一个动作或一个时间?「周三给你回话」是真的,光一句「我看看」不是。二,他问不问细节——几点?在哪儿?要带什么?三,决定权还在不在他手里。可以记一辈子的一句:中文里最响的那个「不」,是一个没有细节的答应。;自己拒绝走三步:接、挡、补。先接住(谢谢你想着我/哎呀真不巧),你不接,对方听到的第一个字就是「不」。再挡——铁律:不要给一个可以被解决的理由。你说没钱,他说我请你。安全的理由只有三类:家里的事、身体的事、已经答应了别人。最后补一句。顺序一反,就不像拒绝,像辩解。

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小悦Leo,别问为什么,你现在拒绝我一件事。

Leo, don't ask why. Right now, I want you to turn me down.

Leo啊?拒绝什么?

Huh? Turn you down about what?

小悦我周六要搬一批东西,你来帮我搬。

I've got a load of stuff to move on Saturday. Come help me.

Leo不行,我周六有事。

No, I can't. I've got something on Saturday.

小悦停。

Stop.

Leo怎么了?我拒绝得不对吗?

What? Did I turn you down wrong?

小悦你知道刚才那两个字,在中国人耳朵里有多硬吗?

Do you know how hard those two words land on a Chinese ear?

Leo可是我说的是真话,我周六真的有事。

But I was telling the truth. I really do have something on Saturday.

小悦真话没错。问题是你把"不行"放在了第一个位置。

The truth, sure. The problem is you put "no" in the very first position.

Leo那应该放在哪儿?

Then where is it supposed to go?

小悦先别急,我们再来一次。

Hold on. Let's try that again.

小悦Leo,周六来帮我搬东西吧,人手不够。

Leo, come help me move some stuff on Saturday. I don't have enough hands.

Leo那个……我可能……

Um... I might...

小悦可能什么?

Might what?

Leo我时间上有一点不太好安排。

My schedule is a little hard to work around.

小悦几点都行,你说个时间。

Any time works. Just name one.

Leo那下午?

Uh, afternoon?

小悦好,下午两点,我等你。

Great. Two o'clock. I'll be waiting.

Leo等一下,我怎么答应了?

Wait, how did I just say yes?

小悦你确实答应了。

You really did say yes.

Leo我明明是想拒绝的。

But I was trying to turn you down!

小悦我知道。你太软,我一推你就倒了。

I know. You were too soft. One push and you fell over.

Leo所以我硬也不行,软也不行。

So hard doesn't work, and soft doesn't work either.

小悦你不是不会拒绝,你是不知道中文里的"不"应该放在哪儿。

It's not that you can't say no. You just don't know where "no" goes in Chinese.

Leo拒绝还有位置的问题?

Saying no has a position?

小悦有。中国人说"不"的时候,很少把它放在句子的最前面。

It does. When Chinese people say no, they almost never put it at the front of the sentence.

Leo那放在哪儿?

So where do they put it?

小悦放在时间里,放在能力里,放在别人身上。

In time. In ability. In other people.

Leo这三个地方我一个都想不到。

I wouldn't have thought of any of those three.

小悦今天我们就一个一个把它们找出来。

Today we're going to find all three, one by one.

Leo小悦,我有个问题,我一直不太敢问。

Xiao Yue, there's something I've never quite dared to ask.

小悦你问。

Go ahead.

Leo中国人不直接说"不",是不是有一点不诚实?

When Chinese people don't say no directly, isn't that a little dishonest?

小悦这个问题问得好,很多人心里都这么想。

That's a good question. A lot of people quietly think that.

Leo因为在英国,说不去就是不去,大家都不会生气。

Because in the UK, if you say you're not coming, you're not coming, and nobody gets upset.

小悦我先反问你一句。你拒绝的时候,拒绝的是这件事,还是这个人?

Let me ask you first. When you turn something down, are you turning down the thing, or the person?

Leo当然是这件事。

The thing, obviously.

小悦可是听的人不一定这么想。

But the person listening doesn't necessarily see it that way.

Leo你是说他会觉得我在拒绝他?

You mean they'll feel like I'm rejecting them?

小悦中文里的拒绝,第一件事不是把话说清楚,是不让对方觉得他这个人被否定了。

In Chinese, the first job of a refusal isn't being clear. It's making sure the other person doesn't feel rejected as a person.

Leo所以绕一点是为了保护他。

So going around in circles is to protect them.

小悦也是为了保护你自己。你今天让他难堪,明天你有事就不好开口了。

And to protect you. Embarrass them today, and tomorrow you won't be able to ask them for anything.

Leo我明白了,这跟我们上次说的面子有关系。

I see. This connects to face, the thing we talked about last time.

小悦有关系,但是不一样。面子讲的是场面,拒绝讲的是分寸。

It connects, but it isn't the same. Face is about the situation. Refusing is about proportion.

Leo"分寸"这个词我听过,到底是什么意思?

I've heard that word, proportion. What does it actually mean?

小悦分寸就是"多一点太过,少一点不够"的那个位置。

Proportion is the exact spot where a bit more is too much and a bit less isn't enough.

Leo这也太难把握了。

That's way too hard to judge.

小悦不难,因为它是有规矩的,不是靠感觉。

It isn't, because there are rules. It doesn't run on instinct.

Leo真的有规矩?

There are actual rules?

小悦有。今天分两半。上半场我教你听懂别人的拒绝。

There are. Today has two halves. In the first half, I'll teach you to hear other people's refusals.

Leo下半场呢?

And the second half?

小悦下半场我教你自己怎么拒绝,还不伤人。

In the second half, I'll teach you how to refuse without hurting anyone.

Leo我先要上半场。我怕我已经错过很多次了。

I want the first half first. I'm afraid I've already missed a lot of them.

小悦你肯定错过了。开始之前我先给你一句话,你记住。

You definitely have. Before we start, here's one line. Remember it.

Leo你说。

Go ahead.

小悦你的中文说得糙一点没关系,但是你听,必须听得准。

It's fine if your Chinese comes out a bit rough. But your listening has to be exact.

Leo为什么?

Why?

小悦因为说错了别人会原谅你,听错了没有人会告诉你。

Because if you say it wrong, people forgive you. If you hear it wrong, nobody tells you.

小悦我们从最常见的一句开始。再说吧。

Let's start with the most common one. "We'll see."

Leo这句我熟。再说吧,就是以后再讨论,对吧?

I know that one. "We'll see" means we'll discuss it later, right?

小悦不对。"再说吧"的意思是,这件事到这里结束了。

Wrong. "We'll see" means this ends right here.

Leo什么?

What?

小悦九成的情况下,"再说吧"就是"不"。

Nine times out of ten, "we'll see" is a no.

Leo可是它字面上明明是以后再说。

But literally it says we'll talk later.

小悦字面上是把话往后推,实际上是把事情放下。

Literally it pushes the conversation back. In practice it puts the whole thing down.

Leo那我上个月……

Then last month I...

小悦你上个月怎么了?

What happened last month?

Leo我约一个朋友去爬山,他说再说吧。我等了三个星期。

I asked a friend to go hiking, and he said "we'll see." I waited three weeks.

小悦你等到了吗?

Did the answer ever come?

Leo没有。我还以为他忘了,上个星期又问了一次。

No. I thought he'd forgotten, so I asked again last week.

小悦他怎么回你的?

What did he say?

Leo他说最近有点忙,再说吧。

He said he's been a bit busy, we'll see.

小悦那是第二次拒绝了,而且比第一次重。

That was the second refusal, and it was heavier than the first.

Leo我完全没有听出来。

I didn't hear it at all.

小悦跟"再说吧"一家的还有几句。到时候再说、以后有机会、改天吧、有空一起。

"We'll see" has relatives. "We'll see when the time comes." "Maybe some other time." "Some other day." "Let's do it sometime when we're both free."

Leo这些全都是拒绝?

Those are all refusals?

小悦这些全都没有日期。中文里,没有日期的约定就不是约定。

None of them have a date. In Chinese, a plan without a date isn't a plan.

Leo第二类是什么?

What's the second type?

小悦第二类我叫它考虑型。我考虑一下、我想想、我看看、让我想想。

I call the second type the thinking-about-it type. "Let me consider it." "Let me think." "Let me have a look." "Let me think it over."

Leo这个听起来是真的在想。

That one sounds like they're actually thinking.

小悦你要看的不是这句话,你要看的是后面三天。

Don't look at the sentence. Look at the next three days.

Leo三天?

Three days?

小悦三天没有消息,答案就已经给你了。

Three days with no word, and you already have your answer.

Leo他不会再来说一声吗?

They won't come back and tell me?

小悦不会。因为在他心里,那句"我考虑一下"已经说过了。

No. Because in their mind, "let me consider it" has already been said.

Leo所以我不能再去问。

So I can't go and ask again.

小悦可以问一次,但是你要做好心理准备。

You can ask once. Just be ready for the answer.

Leo第三类呢?

And the third type?

小悦第三类最有意思,我叫它把人搬出来。

The third one is the most interesting. I call it bringing in a third party.

Leo搬谁?

Bringing in who?

小悦搬一个不在场的人。我得问问我爱人、我问一下我们领导、家里可能有安排、我们再研究研究。

Someone who isn't in the room. "I need to check with my wife." "Let me ask my boss." "My family might have plans." "We'll look into it."

Leo这些也是拒绝?

Those are refusals too?

小悦只要决定权跑到别人身上,那基本上就是拒绝。

Once the decision moves to someone else, it's basically a no.

Leo为什么要这样绕?

Why go around like that?

小悦因为这样一来,说"不"的那个人就不是他了。

Because that way, the person saying no isn't them anymore.

Leo他把责任交给了一个不在场的人。

They hand the responsibility to someone who isn't there.

小悦而且你没有办法去跟那个人商量。

And you have no way to go and argue with that person.

Leo这一招真高。

That's a clever move.

小悦最后一类是困难型。有点困难、不太方便、恐怕不行、有难度。

The last type is the difficulty type. "That's a little difficult." "That's not very convenient." "I'm afraid that won't work." "That would be tough."

Leo"有点困难"是不是还有一点希望?

Does "a little difficult" still leave a little hope?

小悦一点都没有。中文里说"有点",很多时候就是"很"。

None at all. In Chinese, "a little" very often means "very."

Leo那"不太方便"呢?

What about "not very convenient"?

小悦"不太方便"还多一层意思,就是别问原因。

"Not very convenient" carries an extra layer. It means don't ask why.

Leo连原因都不能问?

I can't even ask the reason?

小悦他要是想让你知道原因,他刚才就直接说了。

If they wanted you to know the reason, they would have told you already.

Leo我以前每次都追着问为什么。

I used to chase people for a reason every single time.

小悦那你等于逼着他现场编一个理由。

Then you were forcing them to invent one on the spot.

Leo完了,我做过好几次。

Oh no. I've done that several times.

小悦从今天起改还来得及。

It's not too late to change, starting today.

Leo小悦,这些句子太多了,我记不住。

Xiao Yue, that's too many sentences. I can't remember them all.

小悦那我给你三个判断的办法,比背句子有用。

Then I'll give you three tests. More useful than memorizing sentences.

Leo好,我拿笔记一下。

Okay, let me grab a pen.

小悦第一,听后面有没有下一步。

One. Listen for whether there's a next step.

Leo什么叫下一步?

What counts as a next step?

小悦一个动作,或者一个时间。我看看这个星期的安排,周三给你回话,这是真的。

An action, or a time. "Let me check my schedule this week and get back to you Wednesday." That one's real.

Leo那光说"我看看"呢?

And just "let me have a look"?

小悦光说"我看看",就是没有下一步。

Just "let me have a look" has no next step.

Leo懂了。第二个办法呢?

Got it. What's the second test?

小悦第二,看他问不问细节。

Two. See whether they ask about details.

Leo细节?

Details?

小悦真要来的人一定会问,几点?在哪儿?要带什么?穿什么方便?

Someone who's really coming will ask. What time? Where? What should I bring? What should I wear?

Leo因为他心里已经开始安排了。

Because they've already started planning it in their head.

小悦对。他不问细节,就是他没有把这件事放进心里。

Right. No questions about details means it never entered their head.

Leo这个太准了。

That is scarily accurate.

小悦我给你一句话,你可以记一辈子。

Here's a line you can keep for life.

Leo你说。

Go ahead.

小悦中文里最响的那个"不",是一个没有细节的答应。

The loudest no in Chinese is a yes with no details.

Leo没有细节的答应……

A yes with no details...

小悦他说好啊好啊,一个问题都不问,你就该知道了。

They say "sure, sure," and ask zero questions. That's when you should know.

Leo可是他明明说了好。

But they literally said yes.

小悦他说的是,我不想让你现在难堪。

What they said was, I don't want you to feel awkward right now.

Leo第三个办法是什么?

What's the third test?

小悦第三,看决定权在不在他手里。

Three. See whether the decision is still in their hands.

Leo就是刚才那个把人搬出来?

That's the bringing-in-a-third-party thing?

小悦对。他一开始就把爱人、领导、家里搬出来,事情已经结束了。

Right. If they bring in a spouse, a boss or the family right at the start, it's already over.

Leo我现在用这三条,回头看我那个爬山的朋友。

Let me run my hiking friend through these three.

小悦你说说看。

Go ahead.

Leo第一条,他没有下一步,只有一句再说吧。

One. No next step, just "we'll see."

小悦中了一条。

That's one.

Leo第二条,他一个细节都没有问。没问几点,也没问哪座山。

Two. He didn't ask a single detail. Not the time, not even which mountain.

小悦中了两条。

That's two.

Leo第三条,他后来说要看家里的安排。

Three. Later he said it depended on his family's plans.

小悦三条全中。

All three.

Leo所以我等的那三个星期,其实第一天就结束了。

So those three weeks I spent waiting were over on day one.

小悦现在你知道了,以后你能省下很多个三个星期。

Now you know, and you'll save yourself a lot of three-week waits.

Leo上半场我听懂了。现在教我怎么说。

I've got the first half. Now teach me how to say it.

小悦中文的拒绝有一个固定的形状,三步。接、挡、补。

A Chinese refusal has a fixed shape. Three steps. Catch, block, bridge.

Leo接、挡、补。

Catch, block, bridge.

小悦第一步,接。你得先把对方的话接住。

Step one, catch. You have to catch what they said first.

Leo怎么接?

How do I catch it?

小悦谢谢你想着我。哎呀真不巧。你这么一说我还真挺想去的。

"Thanks for thinking of me." "Oh, what terrible timing." "Now that you mention it, I'd actually love to go."

Leo可是我心里根本不想去。

But I don't want to go at all.

小悦那你也得先接。你不接,对方听到的第一个字就是"不"。

You still catch it first. If you don't, the first word they hear is no.

Leo第一个字有那么重要吗?

Is the first word really that important?

小悦非常重要。人的耳朵只记得住开头和结尾。

Extremely. Ears only remember the beginning and the end.

Leo明白了。第二步是挡。

Got it. Step two is block.

小悦挡就是给一个理由。这一步有一条铁律。

Block means giving a reason. And this step has one iron rule.

Leo你说。

Go ahead.

小悦不要给一个可以被解决的理由。

Never give a reason that can be solved.

Leo什么意思?

What do you mean?

小悦你说我没钱,对方说我请你。

You say you have no money. They say it's on me.

Leo那我就没话说了。

Then I've got nothing left to say.

小悦你说我不会做,对方说我教你。你说我没车,对方说我来接你。

You say you don't know how. They say I'll teach you. You say you have no car. They say I'll pick you up.

Leo他把我的理由一个一个都拆掉了。

They take my reasons apart one by one.

小悦然后你只能答应,或者最后翻脸。

And then you either say yes, or it ends in a fight.

Leo那什么样的理由是安全的?

So what kind of reason is safe?

小悦三类。家里的事、身体的事、已经答应了别人。

Three kinds. Family, health, and already promised to someone else.

Leo为什么这三类安全?

Why are those three safe?

小悦因为对方帮不上忙,也不好意思往下问。

Because the other person can't help, and would feel rude digging any further.

Leo说"我不想去"行不行?

Can I just say "I don't want to go"?

小悦那句话在中文里太重,只能对最亲的人用。

That line is far too heavy in Chinese. Save it for the people closest to you.

Leo可是这些理由,有的不就是假的吗?

But aren't some of these reasons just lies?

小悦这个问题我等你很久了。

I've been waiting for you to ask that.

Leo那你怎么回答?

So what's your answer?

小悦你可以说真话,但是你不用说全部的真话。

You can tell the truth. You just don't have to tell all of it.

Leo挑一部分说。

Pick a piece of it.

小悦挑一个真实的、可是他解决不了的部分说。

Pick a piece that's true, and that they can't fix.

Leo这个我能接受。

I can live with that.

小悦第三步,补。

Step three, bridge.

Leo补是什么?

What's the bridge?

小悦给他一个后面还有的感觉。

Give them the feeling that there's still something ahead.

Leo比如说?

Like what?

小悦下次我请你。你要是找不到人,你再叫我。我帮你问问别人。

"Next one's on me." "If you can't find anyone, call me back." "I'll ask around for you."

Leo这不就是刚才那个再说吧吗?

Isn't that just "we'll see" again?

小悦不一样。刚才那是别人对你用,你听出来就行。现在是你用,你心里得有数。

Not the same. Before, other people used it on you and you just had to hear it. Now you're using it, and you need to know what you mean.

Leo那我给的这个补,要不要真的做到?

Do I actually have to follow through on the bridge?

小悦能做到的就说具体,做不到的就别给日期。

If you can follow through, be specific. If you can't, don't give a date.

Leo所以补是给关系的,不是给这件事的。

So the bridge is for the relationship, not for the thing.

小悦这句话你说得比我好。

You said that better than I did.

Leo顺序能不能换?我先说理由,最后说谢谢。

Can I switch the order? Reason first, thank you at the end.

小悦不能换。先说理由,听起来像辩解。

You can't. Reason first sounds like an excuse.

Leo辩解?

An excuse?

小悦像你在证明自己没有错,那对方就更不舒服了。

Like you're proving you did nothing wrong. That makes them feel worse.

Leo好,我试一次。你再问我一次周六。

Okay, let me try. Ask me about Saturday again.

小悦Leo,我周六要搬一批东西,你来帮我吧。

Leo, I've got a load of stuff to move on Saturday. Come give me a hand.

Leo哎呀真不巧,我周六一早答应了我妹妹,陪她去医院。

Oh, what terrible timing. I promised my sister I'd take her to the hospital first thing Saturday.

小悦嗯。

Mm.

Leo这个我推不掉,她一个人不敢去。

I can't get out of it. She's scared to go alone.

小悦明白了。

I see.

Leo你要是周日还没搬完,你叫我,我一整天都在。

If you're still not done on Sunday, call me. I'm free all day.

小悦满分。

Full marks.

Leo真的?

Really?

小悦接、挡、补,一个都不少,而且你这个理由我拆不动。

Catch, block, bridge, all three there. And I can't take that reason apart.

Leo因为我妹妹你请不动。

Because you can't buy my sister off.

小悦我总不能说那我陪她去。

I can hardly say I'll take her myself.

Leo可是有的人就是听不懂,那怎么办?

But some people just don't get the hint. Then what?

小悦这就是下一件事。中文的拒绝是有档位的。

That's the next thing. A Chinese refusal has settings.

Leo档位?像空调那样?

Settings? Like an air conditioner?

小悦差不多。从最软到最硬,我给你排一排。

More or less. Let me line them up from softest to hardest.

Leo你排。

Go ahead.

小悦再说吧、我看看、恐怕不行、这个不太合适、我真的帮不了你。

"We'll see." "Let me have a look." "I'm afraid that won't work." "This isn't really suitable." "I really can't help you."

Leo最后一句已经很重了。

That last one is already heavy.

小悦还有更重的。对不起,我不能。

There's heavier. "I'm sorry, I can't."

Leo这句我不敢说。

I wouldn't dare say that one.

小悦所以你才会被人缠住。

That's exactly why people corner you.

Leo你怎么知道我被人缠住过?

How do you know I've been cornered?

小悦你说说看。

Tell me about it.

Leo上个月在健身房,一个人跟我说了四十分钟。

Last month at the gym, a guy talked at me for forty minutes.

小悦你说了什么?

What were you saying?

Leo我一直说我再想想、我下次来看看。

I kept saying let me think about it, I'll come back and have a look next time.

小悦你在最软的那一档上转圈,他当然不放你走。

You were going in circles on the softest setting. Of course he wasn't letting you leave.

Leo那我应该怎么办?

So what should I have done?

小悦记住一条规矩。对方第二次问的时候,你必须升一档。

Remember one rule. The second time they ask, you have to go up a level.

Leo第二次就要升?

Already on the second ask?

小悦对。第一次他可能真的没听出来,第二次他就是在试你。

Yes. The first time they may genuinely have missed it. The second time they're testing you.

Leo如果我不升呢?

And if I don't go up?

小悦那他会问第三次、第四次,因为你每次都留了一条缝。

Then they'll ask a third time and a fourth, because you keep leaving a gap open.

Leo所以我以为我在客气,其实我在给他希望。

So I thought I was being polite, but I was feeding them hope.

小悦而且到最后你一定会说重话,那个时候比一开始说清楚更伤人。

And in the end you'll say something harsh anyway, which hurts far more than being clear at the start.

Leo给我几句升档用的话吧。

Give me some lines for going up a level.

小悦三句,你背下来。第一句,这个我真的帮不了你。

Three of them. Memorize them. One. "I really can't help you with this."

Leo很明确。

Very clear.

小悦第二句,我理解你的情况,可是我这边确实做不了。

Two. "I understand your situation, but on my end I genuinely can't."

Leo这句给了面子,但是没有留缝。

That one gives them face without leaving a gap.

小悦第三句最重要。你别等我了,你去找别人吧。

Three is the most important. "Don't wait on me. Go and find someone else."

Leo这句听起来有一点冷。

That one sounds a bit cold.

小悦不冷。你让他去找别人,是把时间还给他。

It isn't. Sending them to someone else gives them their time back.

Leo原来这也是一种好。

So that's a kindness too.

小悦拒绝里面最善良的一件事,就是让对方早一点去找别人。

The kindest thing inside a refusal is letting the other person go look elsewhere sooner.

Leo小悦,我想问几个具体的场合,就是我每次都不知道该怎么开口的那几个。

Xiao Yue, can I ask about some specific situations? The ones where I never know how to start.

小悦你说,最难的那几个我都知道。

Go ahead. I know which ones are hardest.

Leo第一个,别人跟我借钱。

First one. Someone asks to borrow money.

小悦这是最难的一个,因为你说你没钱,对方根本不信。

That's the hardest one, because if you say you have no money, they simply don't believe you.

Leo那到底应该怎么说?

So what am I supposed to say?

小悦借钱的拒绝不要谈钱,要谈规矩。

When you turn down a loan, don't talk about money. Talk about a rule.

Leo谈规矩是什么意思?

What do you mean, a rule?

小悦你就说,我给自己定过一条,不管是谁,我都不借钱出去。

Say this. "I made myself a rule. I don't lend money to anyone, no exceptions."

Leo为什么这样说就有用?

Why does putting it that way work?

小悦因为规矩是对所有人的,他就不会觉得你是单单不肯帮他一个人。

Because a rule applies to everybody, so they won't feel you singled them out.

Leo懂了。第二个场合,饭桌上劝酒。

Got it. Second situation. Being pushed to drink at dinner.

小悦这个更常见。你说你不能喝,他们就说少喝一点,喝一口也行。

That one's even more common. You say you can't drink, and they say just a little, just a sip.

Leo我上次就是这样被劝了三杯。

That's exactly how I got talked into three glasses last time.

小悦你要给一个身体上的理由,而且一定要说得具体。

You need a health reason, and it has to be specific.

Leo比如说什么?

Such as?

小悦我最近在吃药,医生说这个月一口都不能碰。这句话没有人敢再劝。

"I'm on medication. My doctor said not a single drop this month." Nobody dares push after that.

Leo因为万一真的喝出问题,劝的那个人也有责任。

Because if something actually went wrong, the person pushing would share the blame.

小悦你越来越懂了。

You're getting better at this.

Leo第三个,同事让我帮忙,可是我自己手上也一堆事。

Third. A colleague asks for help when I've already got a pile of my own.

小悦这个不要说我不帮,要说我什么时候能帮。

Here, don't say you won't help. Say when you can help.

Leo把拒绝换成时间?

Turn the refusal into a time?

小悦对。今天下午我要交一个东西,明天上午我可以帮你看一下。

Yes. "I have something due this afternoon. I can look at it for you tomorrow morning."

Leo那他要是说今天就要呢?

And if they say they need it today?

小悦那你就说,那你先找别人吧,我这边今天真的排不开。

Then you say, "You'd better find someone else. I genuinely can't fit it in today."

Leo又回到那一句你去找别人。

Back to "go find someone else" again.

小悦这句话在哪个场合都好用,你可以当成一张万能牌。

That line works in every situation. Treat it as a wild card.

Leo第四个,亲戚要给我介绍对象。

Fourth. A relative wants to set me up on a date.

小悦这个不能硬拒绝,因为硬拒绝伤的不是那个对象,是介绍人的面子。

Don't refuse this one head-on, because a hard no doesn't hurt the date. It hurts the matchmaker's face.

Leo那要怎么说才行?

So how should I say it?

小悦先谢,再把问题挡在自己身上。谢谢阿姨想着我,我现在工作还没稳定,我怕耽误人家。

Thank them first, then park the problem on yourself. "Thank you for thinking of me, Auntie. My job isn't settled yet, and I'd hate to waste her time."

Leo把问题说成是我自己的问题。

Make the problem my problem.

小悦对,这样谁都不难堪,她也好去回话。

Right. Nobody's embarrassed, and she has something to report back.

Leo还是接、挡、补那三步。

Still catch, block, bridge.

小悦你看,换了四个场合,形状是同一个。

See? Four different situations, and the shape is the same.

Leo还有一个问题,在微信上应该怎么办?

One more question. What about on WeChat?

小悦微信上更难,因为对方看不见你的脸,也听不见你的声音。

WeChat is harder, because they can't see your face and can't hear your voice.

Leo对,我打出来的字总是显得很冷。

Right, my typed messages always come out cold.

小悦所以在微信上拒绝,你要多做三件事。

So when you refuse on WeChat, you do three extra things.

Leo第一件是什么?

What's the first one?

小悦第一,别秒回一个不行。

One. Don't fire back an instant no.

Leo不是应该回得快一点比较有礼貌吗?

Isn't replying fast the polite thing to do?

小悦一秒钟都没有想的不行,看起来就像你根本没考虑过。

A no that took zero seconds looks like you never considered it at all.

Leo那我应该等多久?

So how long should I wait?

小悦想一两分钟就够了,让对方觉得你认真想过这件事。

A minute or two is enough, so they feel you actually thought about it.

Leo那反过来呢?如果我拖了很久才回?

And the other way round? If I take ages to reply?

小悦那本身就已经是一个信号了。在微信上,回得慢就是在说不。

That's already a signal in itself. On WeChat, a slow reply is a no.

Leo所以回复的速度也是一句话。

So reply speed is a sentence too.

小悦速度是一句你没有打出来的话。

Speed is the sentence you didn't type.

Leo第二件事呢?

What's the second thing?

小悦第二,字要多一点。

Two. Use more words.

Leo为什么字要多?

Why more words?

小悦在微信上,短就是硬。你只发两个字,对方能想一个晚上。

On WeChat, short means harsh. Send two words and they'll think about it all night.

Leo那我应该写多长?

So how long should I write?

小悦把接、挡、补三步都写出来,也就三句话,不长。

Write out all three steps, catch, block and bridge. That's three sentences. Not long.

Leo第三件事?

And the third?

小悦第三,能发语音就发语音。

Three. Send a voice message if you can.

Leo语音有什么不一样?

What's different about voice?

小悦因为语音里有语气,有笑声,那些东西是打不出来的。

Because a voice carries tone, and laughter. You can't type those.

Leo我懂了,字太干净了,干净得像在办事。

I get it. Text is too clean. So clean it sounds like paperwork.

小悦还有一个小东西,很多中国人自己都说不清楚,但是都在用。

There's one small thing too. Most Chinese people couldn't explain it, but they all do it.

Leo是什么?

What is it?

小悦你拒绝完,最好在后面再加一个问句。

After you refuse, add a question at the end.

Leo加一个问句干什么?

What's the question for?

小悦把话头还给他,别让整段对话停在你那个不上面。

It hands the conversation back, so the whole thing doesn't stop on your no.

Leo比如说,你那边还顺利吗?

Like, "how's everything going on your end?"

小悦对,就这么一句,能救回很多关系。

Exactly. That one line saves a lot of relationships.

Leo拒绝完了,就算结束了吗?

Once I've refused, is it over?

小悦还有两个坑,很多人在这儿摔。

There are two more traps, and a lot of people fall in right here.

Leo第一个坑是什么?

What's the first trap?

小悦别解释太多。

Don't over-explain.

Leo可是我想让他知道我是真的有事。

But I want them to know I really am busy.

小悦一个理由就够了。两个理由,人家会觉得你心虚。

One reason is enough. Two reasons and you sound guilty.

Leo三个理由呢?

What about three?

小悦三个理由,那基本上就是假的。

Three reasons is basically a lie.

Leo为什么越解释越假?

Why does more explaining sound faker?

小悦因为真的有事的人,没有空说那么多。

Because someone who really is busy doesn't have time to say that much.

Leo而且我说得越多,他能拆的地方就越多。

And the more I say, the more they have to take apart.

小悦你学得真快。

You're a fast learner.

Leo第二个坑呢?

What's the second trap?

小悦拒绝完了,隔两天做一件小事。

After you refuse, do one small thing a couple of days later.

Leo什么小事?

What kind of small thing?

小悦发个消息问一句,或者帮他一个别的小忙。

Send a message to check in, or help them with something else.

Leo这是干什么用的?

What's that for?

小悦告诉他,我拒绝的是那件事,我们两个人没事。

It tells them: I turned down the thing, and the two of us are fine.

Leo这个我喜欢。那反过来呢?

I like that. And the other way round?

小悦反过来是什么意思?

What do you mean, the other way round?

Leo如果是别人拒绝了我,我该怎么做?

If someone turns me down, what should I do?

小悦这一半更重要,可是几乎没有人教。

This half matters more, and almost nobody teaches it.

Leo那你教我。

Then teach me.

小悦第一,别问为什么。

One. Don't ask why.

Leo为什么不能问为什么?

Why can't I ask why?

小悦你一问,他就得当场编一个理由。你等于逼着一个人撒谎。

The moment you ask, they have to invent a reason on the spot. You're forcing someone to lie.

Leo我以后不问了。第二呢?

I won't ask anymore. What's two?

小悦第二,你要主动给他一个台阶。

Two. Offer them a way down.

Leo"台阶"是什么?

What's a "way down"?

小悦台阶就是让他能体面地走下来的那句话。

A way down is the sentence that lets them step off with their dignity intact.

Leo比如说?

Such as?

小悦没事没事,你忙你的。我就是随口一问。下次有机会。

"No worries, go do your thing." "I was only asking on the off chance." "Maybe next time."

Leo所以我要帮他把这件事收尾。

So it's on me to close the whole thing off for them.

小悦对。让对方的拒绝落地,是你的责任。

Yes. Giving their refusal somewhere to land is your job.

Leo还有第三条吗?

Is there a third one?

小悦第三,同一件事,别问第二次。

Three. Don't ask twice about the same thing.

Leo因为第二次会逼他升档。

Because the second ask forces them up a level.

小悦你会逼一个本来对你很客气的人,跟你说重话。

You'd force someone who was being kind to you into saying something harsh.

Leo小悦,我想问一个不太好听的问题。

Xiao Yue, I want to ask something that isn't very nice.

小悦你问。

Go ahead.

Leo这一套,你们中国人自己不累吗?

Doesn't all of this exhaust you Chinese people yourselves?

小悦累。而且被折磨得最多的就是我们自己。

It does. And the people it wears down most are us.

Leo真的?

Really?

小悦我等过一个永远不来的回复,等了两个月。

I once waited two months for a reply that never came.

Leo对方说了什么?

What had they said?

小悦我看看,有消息告诉你。

"Let me have a look. I'll let you know."

Leo然后就没有然后了。

And there was no "then."

小悦还有小时候,你问爸爸妈妈能不能买一个东西,他们说再说吧。

And as a kid, you ask your parents if you can have something, and they say "we'll see."

Leo那也是不?

That's a no too?

小悦那是不,可是小孩子会真的等。

It's a no. But a child actually waits.

Leo工作里也有吧?

It happens at work too, right?

小悦领导说我看看,你就一直等着,不知道该不该往下做。

Your boss says "let me have a look," and you just wait, not knowing whether to keep going.

Leo所以这一套东西是有代价的。

So this whole system has a cost.

小悦代价就是,软拒绝把难受从今天挪到了以后,还加了利息。

The cost is this. A soft no moves the pain from today to later, with interest added.

Leo那你们不想改吗?

Don't you want to change it?

小悦在改。现在年轻人之间已经直接多了。

It is changing. Young people are much more direct with each other now.

Leo怎么个直接法?

Direct how?

小悦朋友之间会直接说,不去,累。三个字。

Between friends you'll just hear "not going, tired." Three words.

Leo这样不会不礼貌吗?

Isn't that rude?

小悦不会,反而是亲近的证明。

No. If anything it's proof that you're close.

Leo所以你们有两套?

So there are two systems?

小悦两套。对陌生人、客户、长辈、公司里的人,用软的那一套。

Two. For strangers, clients, elders and people at work, you use the soft one.

Leo对朋友和家人呢?

And for friends and family?

小悦可以直接。越绕反而越见外。

You can be direct. The more you circle around, the more distant you sound.

Leo那我一个外国人,应该用哪一套?

So as a foreigner, which one should I use?

小悦你有一个特权。

You have a privilege.

Leo什么特权?

What privilege?

小悦你说得直一点,大家会原谅你,因为你是外国人。

If you're a bit blunt, people forgive you, because you're a foreigner.

Leo那听呢?

And listening?

小悦听不懂,没有人会来告诉你。你会一直在原地等。

If you don't understand, nobody comes to tell you. You'll just keep standing there waiting.

Leo所以你开头那句话是这个意思。

So that's what your line at the beginning meant.

小悦说可以糙,听必须准。

Speaking can be rough. Listening has to be exact.

Leo那我说的时候,有没有底线?

When I do speak, is there a bottom line?

小悦两条。第一,语气要软一点,不行改成恐怕不行。

Two things. One, soften the tone. Turn "no" into "I'm afraid not."

Leo第二条呢?

And the second?

小悦脸上要有表情。你板着脸,说得再好听也是硬的。

Put it on your face. With a blank expression, even the sweetest words come out hard.

Leo小悦,你刚才说你自己也不会拒绝,那是什么时候?

Xiao Yue, you said earlier that you couldn't say no either. When was that?

小悦我开店第一年。

My first year running the shop.

Leo店里的事?

Something at the shop?

小悦一个老同学,每个星期来拿蛋糕。

An old classmate came in every week to pick up a cake.

Leo她付钱吗?

Did she pay?

小悦她说先记账上,回头一起给你。

She'd say, put it on my tab, I'll settle up later.

Leo那你记了吗?

Did you keep the tab?

小悦我记了。可是我一次都没有催过。

I did. But I never once chased her for it.

Leo为什么不催?

Why not?

小悦因为她每次都很热情,还跟别人说这是她开店的朋友。

Because she was always so warm, and she'd tell people this was her friend with the shop.

Leo你不好意思开口。

You couldn't bring yourself to bring it up.

小悦我拉不下脸。她每次说下次一起给,我就说不着急。

I couldn't face it. Every time she said she'd settle up next time, I said there's no rush.

Leo这样过了多久?

How long did that go on?

小悦半年。账上三千多块。

Six months. Over three thousand yuan on the tab.

Leo三千多?

Over three thousand?

小悦后来我实在扛不住了,发了一条消息,把话说清楚。

Eventually I couldn't carry it anymore. I sent a message and said it plainly.

Leo她怎么说?

What did she say?

小悦她回了三个字。

She replied with three characters.

Leo哪三个字?

Which three?

小悦至于吗。

"Was that really necessary?"

Leo然后呢?

And then?

小悦然后她再也没有来过。

And then she never came back.

Leo钱呢?

What about the money?

小悦钱两个星期以后转过来了,一分不少。

The money came through two weeks later. Every last cent.

Leo那朋友呢?

And the friend?

小悦朋友没了。

The friend was gone.

Leo可是你什么都没做错,你一直在让着她。

But you did nothing wrong. You kept giving way to her.

小悦我做错了一件事。我一直说不着急,其实我一直在着急。

I did one thing wrong. I kept saying there's no rush, when I was rushing inside the whole time.

Leo你以为你在保护这段关系。

You thought you were protecting the friendship.

小悦我以为。可是我只是在替她攒一个更大的难堪。

I thought so. But all I was doing was saving up a bigger humiliation for her.

Leo攒?

Saving up?

小悦我省下来的那些次"不",最后要一次还清,利息还特别高。

All the noes I skipped had to be paid back at once, and the interest was brutal.

Leo如果第一个月你就说清楚呢?

What if you'd said it plainly in the first month?

小悦那她可能会不高兴一个星期,然后我们还是朋友。

Then she might have been upset for a week, and we'd still be friends.

Leo这句话有一点疼。

That one stings a little.

小悦所以我后来给自己定了一条规矩。

So afterwards I made myself a rule.

Leo什么规矩?

What rule?

小悦"再说吧"保护的是说话的人的今天,不是听话的人的明天。

"We'll see" protects the speaker's today. It doesn't protect the listener's tomorrow.

Leo那你现在怎么做?

So what do you do now?

小悦软的方式,硬的内容。话可以绕,意思不能绕。

Soft in form, hard in content. The words can go around. The meaning can't.

Leo我今天要记的东西太多了,你帮我理一遍。

There's so much to remember today. Run me through it.

小悦七条。第一,中文里的"不"很少放在最前面,它藏在时间里、能力里、别人身上。

Seven points. One. In Chinese, "no" is rarely at the front. It hides in time, in ability, in other people.

Leo第二条呢?

What's two?

小悦第二,听拒绝看三样。有没有下一步,问不问细节,决定权在不在他手里。

Two. To hear a refusal, check three things. Is there a next step, do they ask about details, and is the decision still theirs.

Leo第三,没有细节的答应就是拒绝。

Three. A yes with no details is a no.

小悦记得很牢。第四,自己拒绝走三步,接、挡、补。

You've got it. Four. To refuse, take three steps. Catch, block, bridge.

Leo第五,理由不能是对方可以解决的。

Five. The reason can't be one they're able to solve.

小悦第六,对方第二次问,你必须升一档。

Six. The second time they ask, you go up a level.

Leo第七是给台阶。

Seven is offering a way down.

小悦别人拒绝你的时候,你要帮他把话收好。

When someone turns you down, help them put the words away neatly.

Leo屏幕前的朋友,现在可以想一想。

If you're watching, take a second right now.

小悦想什么?

Think about what?

Leo你最近一次听到再说吧,是谁说的?

The last time you heard "we'll see," who said it?

小悦还有一件事。你心里有没有一件不想去、可是一直没敢拒绝的事?

And one more thing. Is there something you don't want to do that you've never dared turn down?

Leo那件事今天就可以处理了。

That one can be dealt with today.

小悦Leo,最后换我来。

Leo, one last thing. My turn.

Leo换你?

Your turn?

小悦你上个月问我的那件事,我今天回答你。

The thing you asked me last month. I'm answering you today.

Leo哪件事?

Which thing?

小悦你想让我周六去你们学校,给孩子上一节做蛋糕的课。

You wanted me to come to your school on a Saturday and teach the kids a cake-making class.

Leo对,我问了以后你一直没说。

Right, and you never said anything after I asked.

小悦我一直没说,就是我今天讲的那个毛病。

Me saying nothing is exactly the bad habit I've been describing today.

Leo那你现在说。

So say it now.

小悦谢谢你第一个想到我,我听到的时候是真的高兴。

Thank you for thinking of me first. I was genuinely happy when I heard it.

Leo嗯。

Mm.

小悦可是周六是我店里一个星期里最忙的一天,我走不开,我一个人看店。

But Saturday is the busiest day of my week at the shop, and I can't get away. I run it alone.

Leo这个理由我拆不动。

I can't take that reason apart.

小悦十一月我可以。那时候店里不忙,你把孩子带到我店里来,我教他们做小饼干。

November works for me. The shop is quiet then. Bring the kids to me and I'll teach them to make little cookies.

Leo接、挡、补。

Catch, block, bridge.

小悦你听出来了。

You heard it.

Leo我听出来了,而且我一点都不难受。

I heard it, and it didn't sting at all.

小悦这就对了。这就是今天这一期全部想说的。

That's exactly right. And that is everything this episode wanted to say.

Leo拒绝不是把人推开。

Refusing isn't pushing someone away.

小悦拒绝是告诉对方,你在我这里是什么位置。

Refusing tells the other person where they stand with you.

Leo今天就聊到这儿,谢谢你们听到最后。

That's it for today. Thank you for staying with us to the end.

小悦下次你想说再说吧的时候,试试看把那句话说完整。

Next time you want to say "we'll see," try finishing the sentence instead.

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